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Review Date: 11/3/2006
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,895.00
| Rating: 10
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Great Projection, Even Scale, Wonderful sound
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This is the new Yamaha that was created for LA Musician Wayne Bergeron in collaboration with Yamahas Head Trumpet Designer Bob Malone. The idea for the horn was to take the positive aspects of the Kanstul Wayne had played for 15 years and make additional improvements on the Kanstul.
They have succeeded extremely well. Right out of the box the Yamaha quality was evident. The valves were quick and smooth. The scale and intonation on the horn appears to be better then the Kanstul. The projection of the horn is amazing. If you are a lead player this allows you to soar over the band - which is taylor made for Wayne. However, the horn is made in such a way that you can back off and blend well with the section.
The bell is the same bell that is on the 8310Z Shew horn and the leadpipe is a modified Z leadpipe. The modification may of been opening it up slightly. The horn was created to allow Wayne to put a lot of air into the horn when he needs to for a loud, fast attack.
When I received the horn I didn't know if I would keep it but I enjoy playing it so much that I can't imagine using another horn. Also in my playing test in front of listeners the 8335LA always gets the nod as having the best sound.
I tried using a very shallow mouthpiece with the horn and my sound got pretty bright but that may have happened with any horn. I am using a Bob Reeves 42M mouthpiece and I have found the horn to be excellent for all-around playing.
Yamaha has really hit a homerun with this horn. It needs to be on everyones try list when they are looking for a new horn.
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Review Date: 11/13/2006
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 10
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warm sound low but still projects upper, good slotting, even resistance
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hard to find silver finish
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The LA (Bergeron) horn has a nice sweet sound, good core, even with a shallow mpc. (Wayne was playing a Bobby Shew 1.5 and trying some variations made by Monette - point is, I think the horn was developed with shallower mpc in mind) Stayed in tune bottom to top with an even, open feel. Like the other reviewer, this horn was picked over the others consistantly (in a large room- see below).
Valve alignment was very good - best of the 5 horns. Smooth slides & quick valves. Notes slotted well up to a strong high G (I'm working through the "wall" at high A).
I'm in the process of purchasing so I don't have a price yet. Spent several hours playing Schilkes, Yamahas and a Selmer Chorus 80J. I play mostly in big band settings, but I do some church gigs and some soloing - need an all around horn. That was Wayne's goal with the design, as he said in a clinic.
Been playing a Yamaha Mike Vax - only drawback for me is the edgey sound in all octaves with a shallow mpc. (just fine with deeper mpc.)
I don't like to switch mouthpieces during gigs so I stick with a warburton SV cup playing lead or split lead/3rd and did so for the testing. BTW, I'm not a pro, but a serious player (semi-pro?)
By comparison: The 80J has a nice fat sound, big bore & I liked how it blew. was as easy as the LA horn in upper register. Not sure if it would cut through in a jazz band - listeners didn't like the upper register as much -
Schilke S42 - too small bore for me felt stuffy
Schilke S32 - 2nd place horn - but felt stuffy from high D to G. Very directional sound - I like to hear myself better - but love the schilke valves!
Shilke B6 and B1 - For me, they got too edgy too quickly
Yamaha New Bobby Shew 83xx-Z horn. Much better blow than the old model, but just liked the LA just a little better. Little more resistance.
If you can, try horns in a big room! In a small practice room some differences were less pronounced, others exaggerated. I played in the music store's main room (near closing so few customers) huge difference for me and the listeners. That is where I noticed the S32 was so directional and the J80 didn't punch through. I play big rooms - it makes sense to do so before dropping $$$ on a horn.
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trptbenge
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Registered: April 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8
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Review Date: 6/10/2007
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,895.00
| Rating: 8
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Sound, Valves and Quality, projection
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Large feel, very directional sound, Like Kanstul Better
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The 8335LA has a great sound and with the right mouthpiece/horn combination it sounds great. The valves are smooth and quick. It projects quite well while still giving the player feedback.
When I played it next to the Kanstul I found that I liked the Kanstul better. The Kanstul doesn't feel quite as large and the sound seems to fill the room and does not seem very directional. This is a nice horn and Wayne sounds great on it but I find myself liking the Kanstul better. I sold my horn to a friend.
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Review Date: 9/12/2007
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $2,000.00
| Rating: 9
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Easy playing high and low, good response. Tuning
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case and the standard moutpiece.
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Best horn, for me, ever. Tuning is very good. Blend very good. I've played the 8310z, 6310z, Calicchio 1s2, Bach 72* but this one beat them all.
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Review Date: 1/27/2008
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,595.00
| Rating: 10
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everything
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none
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killin horn. sounds great from the Gregson Concerto to the double c's in funky cha cha. this horn is awesome!
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Review Date: 3/26/2008
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $2,200.00
| Rating: 10
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Great tone, response, projection. Quick valves, smooth slides. And it looks great!!!!
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Great Horn. You'll find yourdelf using this for years to come.
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ackman13
Junior Member
Registered: October 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 9
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Review Date: 4/20/2008
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,900.00
| Rating: 10
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Great Sound, Flexibility, very responsive, smooth valves and intonation
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None
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Great playing horn for all playing situations
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Pete
Junior Member
Registered: September 2008
Location: Westfield, MA
Posts: 3
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Review Date: 9/17/2008
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,495.00
| Rating: 10
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Responds well, and plays in tune!
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None
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I owned a lacquered 8335LA a while ago and I did not like the way it played. I own a wonderful 8310Z, and the 8335LA did not respond as well. I heard and read so many rants and raves about the horn that I picked up another one.
It is a used 8335LAS with a Tanabe valve alignment. This horn lights it up! I don't know if it is the alignment, the silver plating, just a better sample, or the combination of all three, but it plays the way that I expected the other one to play.
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windscornet
Junior Member
Registered: February 2009
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 4
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Review Date: 3/1/2009
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,700.00
| Rating: 8
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Tone/ Nice bottom end
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bent ball at connection to valve casing
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This is a wonder player. It has a beautiful tone. Fit and finish is basic though. It looks as though it was put together on a machine.
The bell was bent (hard to notice) at the connection to the valve casing.
I had just sent back a Yamaha 8335 for numerous problems. I sent this one back because I was fed up.
However, this is a great jazz horn.
I have a Schilke B1 on order. I don't think you will find a better built horn with better intonation anywhere, period.
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bcpietsch
Junior Member
Registered: February 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 8
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Review Date: 3/6/2009
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,800.00
| Rating: 10
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ALL, from the finish, case, mouthpiece, this is a seriosuly great horn and I have waited years to come across a Yamaha that helps me overcome my lip pressure problems and makes hitting high notes attainable.
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No Choice in silver method....I like the matte on some horns..
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THis Yamaha is the polar opposite of my Bach 1979 Silver 37---both are great but the Yamaha actually coaxes me on to play higher and higher notes while the Bach is not forgiving and has a lot of push back on high notes that if you do not hit close to slot you lose and get a BEEEP sour note---in the Yamama they quietly go away..with my condenser Mic. for Yamaha, the personal studio. and the delay setting I can sound liek Maynard Ferguson and my plan is to play Chameleons/Fiesta in whole when I am done with this horn. I plan to use the Back for orchestral and marching style play and the Yamaha for Jazz and fun playing....its a blast man---a real blast--I am not a pro, but I would say I am ahead of an amateur, I could fall into any band and play with them if it were for weddings or other similar popular music, on classical i need work as most of my work focuses on improvisation..thanks YAMAHA--as usual the Japanese are so freaking reliable, I have a driveway full of Toyotas, a house full of Sony TVs, okay I do have all Apple Computers and routers, but then I have all Japanese TVs and other gear...so let it be with music, machines are not the enemy as long as the person who puts it all together is an artist / engineer who cares--I happen to be an engineer and an artist so I can appreciate the perfect mix of engineering and artist Yamaha has found to make great instruments.
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