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Varjak
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Registered: September 2005
Posts: 3
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Review Date: 11/13/2005
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,650.00
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Superb Bach Tone; Extremely Responsive; Balanced Feel;
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Cons:
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Lively horn initially requires more concentration to slot.
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The Bach Stradivarius LR180/37 (i.e. reversed-leadpipe model/lightweight body/standard-weight bell) is the overlooked jewel in the Bach line. Having played a standard Bach Strad 180/37S for years, the first difference I noticed between the two horns was the more free-blowing nature of the reverse-leadpipe design. This, coupled with the LR horn's lightweight body, makes for a much more responsive trumpet. In short, you get the famed resonant Bach sound with quicker response and less resistance (Requiring about a third less effort overall than the standard-weight model.).
What sold me on this model over the Bach LT series (Which I played for a substantial trial run before selecting the LR model), was the LR model's standard-weight bell. While I found the LT model produced too bright a sound for legit music and small combo jazz, the standard-weight bell of the LR model adds enough mass to horn that there is warmth to its tone. To further hedge this bet, I chose the LR in lacquer-finish (Silver is too thin a finish to dampen the tone I typically get with most horns. I can blow brightness out of a lacquer-finished trumpet. I can't always darken the tone of a silver-plated horn unless it is particluarly heavy.). The overall fit and finish is adequate - standard for Bach - and the weight and balance of the instrument makes it a joy to hold over long sessions. The action of the valves is superb. I highly recommend the LR Bach as the more responsive, easy-playing alternative to Bach's standard-weight horn.
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Review Date: 4/10/2006
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,850.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Tone, intonation, response
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Cons:
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Average valves
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I play a silvered LR180/72. This trumpet is very responsive and "slots in" very well. Intonation is very good for a Bach and high register seems more secure than with standard leadpipe construction. The only lacquered LR180/72 I tried was very difficult to play, but it may have been the occasional lemon. The 72 bell gives a wonderful fat sound in low and middle register and silky smooth high register. On the minus side, it makes the trumpet more tiring than the classic 43 bell, which is easier but with a more commercial sound. The LR180/43 is the trumpet of choice if you constantly live over High C (I could hit the double high C on this one, which never happened to me before).
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Unregistered
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Review Date: 4/19/2006
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Easy blowing
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Cons:
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A bit thin sound
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In the past I´ve tested two models of the LR180-43 and I love the feeling of it.
Opens up easily with a nice, bright sound. The only drawback comparing it to normal or heavy weighted horns it seems, that the sound tends to be at the thin side. Anyway a horn defenitely on my wishlist.
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Unregistered
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Review Date: 6/22/2006
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,600.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Flexibility, tone
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Cons:
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build quality
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I have the LR180S72 and the sound is just about perfect for what I play. There is noticeable less resistance than I had in my old 180S37. Initially, I was overshooting notes, now I now where they live. I am disappointed in the build quality, particularly the cosmetics. Excess solder, visible solder gaps in other areas and tooling marks visible though the finish. Yet, where it truly counts, in the sound, the horn has it.
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admin
Administrator
Registered: December 2005
Location: Pittsfield, MA
Posts: 703
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Review Date: 1/5/2007
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 0
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Positive
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Negative
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This is only a test of the RSS feed from BrassReview.com
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Unregistered
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Review Date: 11/12/2007
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $2,300.00
| Rating: 10
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Pros:
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great open sound,great valves
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Cons:
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none
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I have a a LR180S43. I've had this horn for about 2 months now. And i can't find anything wrong with this horn. The valves are really smooth and work amazingly, the horn gives a big open warm sound, and sounds great in a section. the horn plays beautifly and is deffinetly worth the money.
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Unregistered
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Review Date: 12/10/2007
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $920.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Better response than standard Bachs I've tested, great intonation
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Cons:
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1st valve slide a little loose, maybe leaks a little on certain pitches with slide extended.
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I bought this horn sixteen years ago after playing a Claude Gordon Selmer for a dozen years. My teachers had been complaining about the lack of focus I was getting on the Selmer, and in the big band I could often not be heard even though I was blowing my brains out.
I like the response of the lightweight body with the standard bell. It has a focused core like most Bach Strads, but it responds a lot like my CG Selmer, though with a little more resistance. Slots are good up to E or F above high C; higher notes tend to be a little more slippery. Intonation is much better than the standard Strads.
Projection is wonderful, and this is a fine all-around horn for the player who does a little bit of everything, like me. I really have no need for any other Bb trumpet in my arsenal. With a few different mouthpiece setups I can get any sound I need.
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Unregistered
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Review Date: 2/12/2008
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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free blowing, nice open sound
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Cons:
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RLP is bad for lyres
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I got issued this horn in September. Since then my personal Yamaha 6335 has been sitting under my bed. The Bach has a brighter sound and slots in easier (both a pro and con). But I am loving this horn for all styles. From big band to chamber to military to jazz combos.
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bjhm85
Junior Member
Registered: May 2008
Location: columbia, mo
Posts: 3
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Review Date: 5/14/2008
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Would you recommend the horn? Yes |
Price you paid?: $1,800.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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rich, dark sound; open feel, can project if you need it too
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Cons:
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i got lemon-ed in the valve department
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i've been playing an LR180-72S for all of my undergrad. when i bought the horn, i had no idea i would one day being trying to play lead in big band on it. the horn can get loud and bright if you really, really want it to, but it's a whole lot of work; more than it should be. even playing a shallow cup lead piece like the schilke 14A4a or marcinkiewicz ingram can only do so much. furthermore, the horn simply doesn't slot notes above double G (G above high C.) it is for these reasons i switched to the schilke B2.
on the other hand...
this is an incredible horn for symphonic work. getting a huge, dark tone on this horn is effortless. the tone is warm and full regardless of the dynamic level- resonates through a hall at pianissimo and sounds like a cannon at fortissimo. it will take every ounce of air that you give it, even with the ML
.459 bore. the tone won't distort at high volumes- always rich and dark. the response is pretty good in the middle to mid-high range.
the only overall problem with the horn in the symphonic setting is the legendary bach inconsistency- i've played many strads with great valves- but my horn has pretty terrible valve action. the first and second valves stick almost daily, and when i pull the valves out, the nickel has worn off to reveal the brass in very odd places. it appears that the valves don't exactly depress evenly. however, as i've played other bach horns without this problem, i imagine i just got lemon-ed on this particular horn.
overall- great horn, but don't bring it to big band if you're reading the lead book.
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